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hakan
Username: forumdar

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Posted on Friday, Jul 2, 2010 - 16:57:   

hi folks I have been searching how can I clone a disk because even I use winhex it is not possible. When I saw you form and informant fols I think my problem can be solved here.

I have a machine Ipc which is working with 1 gb industrial CF card. recently.It damaged and we lost some production even I fixed the problem then I tought it would be very good if I had one cloned cf card. So I searched and find Tranced industral CF which same fixed drive like the other. but when get clone it whit win hex after %97 it makes an error. when I checked I saw that original CF has 2.046.240 sectors but my new CF card get get only 1.986.048 sectors. My guess is there is some sectors which I can not formatwide my new CF like as the old one. How can I make a clone of old CF? how can I format new CF 2.406.240 sectors like older one.

please folks I need your answers. I read some of your writings and I beleived that I can find my answer on this forum.

thanks inadvance
regards
hakan
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W. Spiegl
Username: ws

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Posted on Sunday, Jul 4, 2010 - 21:58:   

try to run HP USB format (an USB formatting tool) on the new CF card first - maybe you get out some more sectors (but I do not really believe it).
In doubt you should replace the new CF card by another one. In many cases a bigger CF card should do the same job too (well, you waste space when simply coping the card, but this is the smaller problem).
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hakan
Username: forumdar

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Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 7:43:   

W.Spiegl Thanks for your helps

But I have tried to HP USB format but the result is same. I need to change the format to 2.046.240 sectors I guess. there is an %3 sector whish I cannot Clone , it prevent to working clonned cf card.

I f any one to help me it would be very nice
Thanks

Hakan
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W. Spiegl
Username: ws

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Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 8:42:   

You cannot really "change" the number of sectors if they do not physically exist. You need another CF card.
The size written on the cover of a HD / CF card is NOT ALWAYS absolutely the same (some producers "say" their cards are bigger as they are). Means: 2GB from company one are not 2 GB from company two. Sometimes even the same company sells different sizes.
So the only help is to get a bigger card (or a card with at least the same number of sectors), e.g. a 4 GB card and to waste the free space.
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hakan
Username: forumdar

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Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 9:36:   

Ok I got your point but what I did not understand is , on CF card is there realy sectors . ı tought it is logical sectors so I should change the sectors, am I wrong?

I have tried 2 GB but then Winhex gave me an error massage says it blocked some kid a massage after finished the copy. I think it might me 2 gb cf is not fixed drive.

Also I need youto ask is there way to sshow a CF as fixed drive.?

Thank you for you answers
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Alfons Kramer
Username: admin3

Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 9:52:   

Yes, for a CF card there is a way. For that you need a PCMCIA adapter. In that case it should theoretically be possible to issue a low level format (which might restore the original sector count). With such an adapter the card appears as an ordinary ATA-device.
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hakan
Username: forumdar

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Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 13:24:   

Thank you Alfons,

Could you explain me some more because I have PCMCIA adapter and when I put trough it I can see it as regular hard drive. But I dont know rest of the thinghs you mensions.

How could ı do the low level format and make a sector count as well.
Do this operation by winhex or which program can do my problem

thank you very much regards

hakan
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Alfons Kramer
Username: admin3

Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 15:00:   

WinHex will not do a low level format.
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W. Spiegl
Username: ws

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Posted on Monday, Jul 5, 2010 - 16:28:   

I would not be sure if the warranty is lost if you try a low-level-format. So I would recommend using a bigger CF card.
Meanwhile they are not so expensive. Try to give the other card back.

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